IE10 Metro will not support Adobe Flash, but its not that big of a deal

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One of the first things a lot of folks will try after installing the developer preview of Windows 8 will be the IE10 browser—the most used tool in Windows. IE 10 in the preview is Platform Preview 3 of IE 10.  You can read on the IE blog about the HTML 5 engine work we’re doing. This post is about a big change in Metro style IE, which is the plug-in free experience. In Windows 8, IE 10 is available as a Metro style app and as a desktop app. The desktop app continues to fully support all plug-ins and extensions. The HTML5 and script engines are identical and you can easily switch between the different frame windows if you’d like. Metro style IE provides all the main navigation keyboard shortcuts and mouse support you’ve come to expect—creating tabs, moving between tabs, closing tabs, entering addresses, searching, and more. I’m using this browser full–time, and given the amount of time I spend in Windows Phone, the same experience and use of touch is definitely a plus. But you can decide on what works best for you, and not compromise. Dean Hachamovitch, who leads the IE team, wrote this post.
–Steven

In a post on MSDN Steven Sinofsky made it clear IE10 in the Immersive UI will not be supporting plug-ins, including Adobe’s Flash.

Claiming that running  without plugins will  improves battery life as well as security, reliability, and privacy, Steven went on to say that of the top 97000 websites in the world 62% already fell back to HTML5-like methods of serving content, a number which will just continue to improve over the next year before the official release of Windows 8.

The real saving grace however is that the legacy version of IE10 will still continue to support the full range of plug-ins, with users able to tap “Use Desktop View” in Metro style IE to access all the content.

With browsing, where the UI of the web page is much more important that the UI of the browser itself this is not as big a deal as with other desktop-orientated applications, so despite quite an outcry from commenters on MSDN I do not think there is much reason to protest.

A bigger issue  feel is that apparently the IE10 Metro version does not share cookies with the IE10 desktop version, which is an amazing faux pas which would violate the unity of both sides of the system.

Microsoft – dont worry about the plug-ins – fix the cookies!

Read Steven Sinofsky’s post at MSDN here.

 

 

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  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/6G3ZZJCHOLYP3S5CRCIHQ7WDSE MVIM

    Hmm…I wonder if it will integrate Silverlight support?

    • http://www.facebook.com/todor.tsvetkov Todor Tsvetkov

      Well I think it will, but let’s say hopefully :D

    • Jerry Nixon

      No, they already said that. They don’t support Flash or SL. Although your Metro apps can be written in XAML, just not running in the Metro IE. That’s no biggie though. Kill the plug-ins and improve my experience. I love it, personally.

    • Jerry Nixon

      No, they already said that. They don’t support Flash or SL. Although your Metro apps can be written in XAML, just not running in the Metro IE. That’s no biggie though. Kill the plug-ins and improve my experience. I love it, personally.

  • acceso delacruz

    Wow, isn’t that going to confuse the majority of the user base?

    Though i agree with the rationale, i think there should be some sort of way to let people know about the plug-in enabled IE.

    Maybe when a page requires a plug-in have a message ‘pop up’ offering you the option to open the other IE.

    • Anonymous

      If you look at it, Metro IE is what Safari is for the iPad. They are both supposed to be light-weight and intuitive.

      IE 10 “Desktop” is there for that, a PC browser. IE 10 Metro is more of a tablet browser.

      • http://chmun77.myopenid.com/ Bento77

        Having said that, does it means that we will be finding 2 versions of IE10 in a single OS? So, when switching between the classics desktop and the new Metro UI, will the user get confused of why some sites are capable to run in 1 mode, while not the other??

    • Jerry Nixon

      Ha! You think it’s *that* that will confuse the majority of users? Have you noticed the Metro UI? There’s a long row to hoe before we start to talk about lack-of-Flash confusing users. Plus, thankfully, Apple has already started this orientation for us with IPad’s lack of Flash support.

      • Ignorance is everywhere

        Jerry you really need to start using your brain, your stupid opinion about flash just can’t get any more dumber. No one cares if you don’t use flash. Millions of people do and play many many games or visit astonishing websites which HTML5 won’t be able to deliver for many years to come. Maybe in the future flash will not be needed IF there are standartized with the web standards tools to develop as powerful applications as flash can now. That is not today and you saying flash is useless makes you only a stupid hater that withdraws himself from what is available to you TODAY. You might not appreciate that but millions do and you are nothing but an ignorant fool.

  • acceso delacruz

    Wow, isn’t that going to confuse the majority of the user base?

    Though i agree with the rationale, i think there should be some sort of way to let people know about the plug-in enabled IE.

    Maybe when a page requires a plug-in have a message ‘pop up’ offering you the option to open the other IE.

  • Steve

    They said IE10 is one engine two different UI (one classic for desktops and one Metro for tablet).

    So if they are one engine then why when we instll Flash why Flashy should not work with both of them? They are sam engine after all!

    I tried IE10 (Metro UI) and it’s crazy fast but not having Flash is very disappointed.

    This is a bad Move. Better fix it for final product. People still need Flash!

    • Jerry Nixon

      Although I see your point, let’s be honest. Nobody really needs Flash. It’s a mess. Of those that truly *need* Flash, are they using Windows anyway? No, they are Mac owners. We all know it.

      • http://chmun77.myopenid.com/ Bento77

        Why is it in a mess? Everyone loves Flash, especially when we can watch Youtube. Until HTML 5 is more mature, I think Flash is here to stay.

  • Jerry Nixon

    Umm… now that Flash is dead, can we all just move on?

    • http://chmun77.myopenid.com/ Bento77

      Not until HTML 5 is really more powerful and can provide better entertainment values than Flash.

  • martin

    Developers – Do some real work with jQuery…

  • http://widefide.com Anil

    cant view youtube videos in Win8 consumer preview. even on google chrome

  • Mitchell Sheehan

    This is so not cool. . . IE 10 SHOULD support flash. I was going to buy the Surface RT thinking it did support Flash. Now I changed my mind.

  • Mitchell Sheehan

    What about CNET???? They are still no Flash.