Comments on: Mozilla: Firefox Lost 6-9 Million Downloads Because Of Microsoft’s Browser Choice ‘Glitch’

By: WarrenCush

WarrenCush — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 23:57:00 +0000

why did the EU fine MS 1 billion dollars for? is it because MS blocked consumers from downloading other browsers or didn’t give them an option to choose which browser to use? from what I am reading they are being forced to give an option to choose a browser and not that MS was restricting installing another browser. why would a company advertise competition service on its own product, that doesn’t make any sense to me. if they are not restricted to download another browser then whats the problem, sounds like someone valled in a favor, a big favor. so what I am getting from this the people in EU don’t know they can download another browser like firefox? Mozilla VP doesn’t know that either? eveyonr is so quick to criticize Americans when something as simple as that has to go to court, talk about a waste of tax money

By: guest

guest — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:18:00 +0000

If there was a competitor to Paint before MS included it with the operating system, then yes it would be an issue that including it would be an abuse of monopoly to stifle the competition.

By: Agrippa

Agrippa — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:11:00 +0000

Whoa dude… “most browsers are not as secure as IE.”

Whatever this magic LaLa drug you’re on is, I would like it too. IE has made a lot of headway in IE9. But if you think for one second that it holds a flame to Firefox and Chrome, you’re mistaken. It’s more secure than Safari, that’s for sure. But someone with AIDS in the middle of an Ebola outbreak is more secure than Safari. So that doesn’t say much.

By: Agrippa

Agrippa — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:08:00 +0000

They can’t offer browser choice on RT because so far, Chrome, Opera, and Firefox refuse to make browsers for RT. They blame Microsoft for not letting them. But Microsoft rightly points out that RT is not the same as Windows 8 Pro. They are the ones who don’t want to build browsers for essentially a new OS. That’s like forcing them to have a browser choice on Windows Phone. Why don’t we also force Android to have a browser and a search choice on Android since they control more than half of the smartphone market. (They have a higher percentage share of smartphone market than Microsoft has of browser market at this point). It’s stupid.

What’s more, Mozilla’s own numbers show that the browser choice is bullshit. People only choose another browser because there’s a big flashing sign that says You must choose one. Otherwise if people really wanted Firefox, they would just go download it. Think about it. If these people were sophisticated enough to care that browsers are different, they would have to be mentally disabled to be unable to download the browser they want, the way my grandmother (an Opera user), does. And my grandmother didn’t use her first computer until a few years ago. The iPad already existed when she got her first email. Yet she was able to figure it out after using Opera just once on someone else’s computer. She found it, downloaded it, and started using it in place of IE.

The browser choice is bullshit.

By: sm

sm — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:35:00 +0000

European governments are known to have wierd behaviours. Look how they are forcing Apple to lick Samsung’s a$$ in the UK. I think that they should make MS provide browser choice even on RT tablets as there is no difference between a tablet and a PC really speaking. And MS will capture over 80% of that market very soon anyway, so they should do it proactively.

By: Rikkirik Contrera

Rikkirik Contrera — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:35:00 +0000

Next the EC will be telling Microsoft that computers cannot be delivered with windows preinstalled, but that other companies and consumers should have more choice and be able to use other operating systems like the MAC OS, Linux etc..

By: koenshaku

koenshaku — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:19:00 +0000

It is still ridiculous considering IE is not sold nor are other browsers. Whats next a link to use Notepad+?

By: TonyFinlay

TonyFinlay — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:16:00 +0000

I’m sure if someone complained about Paint it would become an issue, but they’ve haven’t so your point is moot. As I said before it’s not just about it being there it’s about relevance and importance too, too many on here oversimplifying things.

By: TonyFinlay

TonyFinlay — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:13:00 +0000

Oh we’re doing the patronising thing, here’s another definition of monopoly:

“A situation in which a single company owns all or nearly all of the market for a given type of product or service. This would happen in the case that there is a barrier to entry into the industry that allows the single company to operate without competition (for example, vast economies of scale, barriers to entry, or governmental regulation). In such an industry structure, the producer will often produce a volume
that is less than the amount which would maximize social welfare.”

It’s multi-faceted as I said below, it’s not just a single element.

By: TonyFinlay

TonyFinlay — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:11:00 +0000

I’m in no way displaying any fan boy characteristics, that comment made no sense what so ever.

People who attend this site probably represent less than 20% of the entire consumer PC market, the other 80% probably haven’t even heard of Firefox, with Internet Explorer already being there on the machine it already has an advantage, surely you can’t be so blind to see my point?