Poll: Microsoft Surface vs Acer Iconia W510–which one will you choose?

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Microsoft Surface 32GB Acer Iconia W510
OS WindowsRT Windows 8
Processor ARM, NVidia Tegra 3 Intel Atom z-760 1.5 ghz
Storage 32 Gb 32 GB, microSD
Screen 1366×768, 10.6 inch 1366×768, 10.1 inch
Camera front and rear camera 2 MP front, 8 MP rear
Battery 8-13 hours up to 9 hours
Weight 676g 600g
Dimensions 9.3mm 167.5×258.5×8.8 mm
Price $499 $499

With the price of the Microsoft Surface RT models now finally released, one can make an informed comparison between the various tablets.

The tablet closest in price to the Surface RT is the Acer Iconia W510, at $499 without the keyboard dock.

An extra $100 gets you the keyboard cover on the Surface RT 32 GB, while an extra $250 gets you an additional 32 GB storage and the keyboard dock, with built-in battery, on the Iconia W510.

Looking at the specs, which one will out readers be choosing? Vote in the poll and let us know below.

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  • http://twitter.com/greywulf Greywulf

    Disappointed in the price of the Surface RT. It needs $100 shaving off the price, at least.

    I can pick up a moderate spec full Windows 8 laptop for the baseline and get better storage, larger screen and a full keyboard & touchpad thrown in. The trade-off is I lose touchscreen capability and the extra battery life. Windows 8 works great with a keyboard & mouse (I’m using it on my existing laptop right now, and it’s terrific) and battery life is already improved under Windows 8 compared to Windows 7 or lower. No contest, really.

    If they want Windows RT to reach the masses as they want, they have to price it midway between the Nexus 7 and the iPad. That have failed. Shame, really.

    • HarveyT

      Nah….price it any lower and you risk several things:
      1. weakening your partner relationship
      2. slaughter the laptop market. Who would buy a laptop if priced lower?
      3. The things has office on it for free

      • http://twitter.com/counterblow the person

        1 2 3…..who cares?

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Njoi-Fontes/590077451 Njoi Fontes

          Microsoft cares you noob… And so do their partners

          • http://twitter.com/counterblow the person

            if Microsoft is selling their tablets, they are still getting a sale. Microsoft wouldn’t care what happens to partners. If Microsoft eventually consumed all hardware sales, who really cares?

      • willdoors

        I believe in number 1…… surface was going to be $200….. but because of their oem partners they changed the price….. wrong move

    • http://profiles.google.com/kflo411 Kevin Florian

      Your comment fails..
      sorry. =

      • http://twitter.com/greywulf Greywulf

        Thank you for your deep and insightful comment :)

        • http://profiles.google.com/kflo411 Kevin Florian

          Specs are only one of the many facets of the package you’re buying. Design and build quality abound in this RT tablet like no other OEM offer right now. Sure, same $$ can get you a slight increase in pixels or somesuch, but you can bet your marbles that quality of product and the pride of ownership are far more lasting and impressionable. Yes, that’s presuming – but in principle, and logically, given what we’ve seen from Microsoft thus far concerning this hardware, rest your marbles on it.

          This is no fail for them. To think so superficially about price and value is a failure.

          One could have argued against the simplistic design approach they took with METRO; what benefit would they garner with solid color blocks?? I mean come on, I can get super glossy bubble icons on iOS that take weeks to Photoshop. A discerning eye and tasteful person could see the need for such a fresh, modern, minimalist new approach in Metro.

          And it was well received.

          Slowly but surely, Microsoft’s fresh design tact will show for itself.

    • http://twitter.com/revxx14 Jacob Bearce

      I feel like $499 is a pretty fair price. Honestly I think $399 would be perfect: it’s cheap enough without severely undercutting everyone else, it’s expensive enough for customers to not view it as the “cheap” option.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Njoi-Fontes/590077451 Njoi Fontes

      The price is not fantastic but its fair since it is similar to an ipads and it offers way more ( file management/ usb ports/ office/ Xbox music with free streaming / Xbox live / SkyDrive)

  • skruis

    I’m ok with the RT pricing because it indicates that the Surface Pro will probably be sold for $1000 or less which would actually be cheaper than my current Series 7 Slate (assuming the RT->Pro increase holds at $200-$300).

    • http://twitter.com/revxx14 Jacob Bearce

      My guess for the Surface Pro is $699 for base, $799 for 128GB version.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Njoi-Fontes/590077451 Njoi Fontes

        Hmm I’m leaning more toward the base surface pro for $699 and the 128 gb version for $899

        • Bugbog

          I’m more of the opinion the base model will be $799 – $899 and $150 for the Type Cover.

      • willdoors

        you are dreaming and live in a parallel universe, surface pro, the basic one will be about $1000 minimum

  • sri_tech

    Hey, w510 starts $499 without the keyboard for 32gb. Same price as surface RT. If you want keyboard with w510 you need to pay $749 though it will also have 64gb instead of 32gb.

    • http://twitter.com/revxx14 Jacob Bearce

      For $720 you can get a Surface RT with 64GB of storage and a Touch Cover. For $750 you get a Surface RT with 64 GB of storage and a Type Cover.

  • http://twitter.com/danrivhor Daniel Rivero Horie

    After I saw some benchmarks of this new ATOM CPU that comes with most of the new tables, my way to go is a tablet with a i3/i5 CPU. So, I’m gonna wait and see, but I like the Surface Pro and the Samsung tablet that comes with i5

    • incendy

      I agree, I am using the series 7 now with an i5 and very pleased with it. The Surface Pro seems to answer the two issues I have, which are resolution and battery life. I am holding out for the Surface Pro at this point.

  • Drewidian

    I’m still leaning towards an 13 or 14″ Asus Transformer Book. They’ve been silent about it since this summer, but it comes closest to my ideal solution.

    Core i7 CPU/4000 GPU
    4GB RAM
    microSD Card slot
    front and rear cameras
    64 or 128GB SSD
    MicroHDMI
    KB dock with battery and optional discrete graphics and second HD/SSD

    This would make for my ideal Steam gaming tablet since when it is docked it could switch to the secondary graphics card for intense gaming with those games on the KB SSD.

    This for less than $1200 would make me very happy.

  • incendy

    I don’t think I understand the purpose of RT? I thought the idea was to allow affordable devices? Kindle Fire is 199, and you can get the Galaxy Nexus for close to that. I have been using Windows 8 for a long time now and I really just can’t see a use for an RT device unless it is as a PMP type of application.. Internet, Games, Music, Movies. The two best apps so far are Fresh Paint and OneNoteMX which are both much better with a stylus, which is also missing from RT.
    I do think it makes an awesome experience for Games, Music, Movies and Internet but so does the Kindle Fire which is 199.

    • Joe_HTH

      With all due respect, a Surface RT can do everything an Ipad 3 can do and more that an iPad can’t do. I agree the pricing is too high, but it should be a great tablet.

      • http://twitter.com/counterblow the person

        really? It can launch an app store containing over 300k apps?
        .
        THAT is what the average consumer is going to ask.

        • incendy

          Exactly, they can’t compete with a device that has all the apps coming at the same price point. Microsoft has to undercut to build a user base so the devs will come. Don’t get me wrong, I love Windows 8, I just don’t understand the RT devices at this price.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Njoi-Fontes/590077451 Njoi Fontes

            Of course it can compete with ipads at this price point because it 3 critical things that ipads don’t : the ability to open explorer and manage your files, usb ports that allow you to simply plug and play media/copy files and it comes with full office which makes a huge difference because it means that most people can do all their work there. Other things like SkyDrive, Xbox live and Xbox music with free streaming of music are the icing on the cake. Now tell me how does the kindle or iPad compare?

          • incendy

            Are you serious? Good luck trying to market those wonderful features : ).. Personally I will be buying the Surface Pro because I can use it as either a desktop or a tablet, that is a selling point to me, but the RT devices are just overpriced PMP’s lacking the software and hardware I need.

          • willdoors

            everybody wants the APPS….. get the facts! it’s cool that it has a file manager, usb, keyboard….. but the apps is the top priority, if u dont believe it, ask this question to most of us windows phone users!

          • NGM123

            Same

          • willdoors

            exactly, they are ruining surface since day 1….. just like they did with WP and it’s failure NODO OS

        • donzebe

          Two years a ago you can say that.
          The average consumer today wants a tablet that is beautiful works and have their basic apps.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gavin-Tom/100001144097567 Gavin Tom

            exactly, how many actualy apps do you use on a regular basis, I use like 10 maybe? And baby, I can tell you surface is one freaking sweetly built machine, superb quality. And I thought the iphone had build quality, pick up a surface and just feel it, I dare you.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Njoi-Fontes/590077451 Njoi Fontes

          Really? You think that the average consumer give a crap about 100 k fart apps? As long as the most important apps are there they will be happy and in a month or two they will be with every developer on earth with half a brain writing apps for it

    • Drewidian

      Look… this is a long term strategy for MS. Its all about getting the same development environment across its entire ecosystem (PC/Laptop, Tablet, Phone), as well as competing with Apple and Google in the cheap HW space. The problems MS was facing were that1) intel was not in the mobile market, 2) they needed developers to code once and support everywhere, and 3) compete with the Apple and Google ecosystems. Its going to be an interesting year, but the Surface RT and eventually the Surface Pro will help MS do this, if the quality is good.

      • Bugbog

        I feel that Intel dragged its feet a bit too much before getting with the program of offering low-power. And now, same as Microsoft, it may take them awhile to win the low-power, long battery life market.

      • Bugbog

        I feel that Intel dragged its feet a bit too much before getting with the program of offering low-power. And now, same as Microsoft, it may take them awhile to win the low-power, long battery life market.

      • NGM123

        They should have marketed a 16GB version for $399

        • willdoors

          they can’t, cause windows RT eats like 15GB from the whole hard drive

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Njoi-Fontes/590077451 Njoi Fontes

            No, actually it eats 7 gb including office

    • steveo99

      both the tablets you mention have 7 inch screens, that makes bit of a difference.

    • donzebe

      Wrong comparism. please do some more research.
      kindle fire and nexus are toys compare to windows surface RT..

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wanderlei-Santos/816839591 Wanderlei Santos

      For a student, instead of having an iPad to watch videos in class and a real pc for writing papers you can use the RT. Having Office on it and a really good keyboard eliminates the need for a pc in most cases.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wanderlei-Santos/816839591 Wanderlei Santos

      For a student, instead of having an iPad to watch videos in class and a real pc for writing papers you can use the RT. Having Office on it and a really good keyboard eliminates the need for a pc in most cases.

    • willdoors

      I agree with you, they should have never released the RT version….. or at least make it able to run x86 apps…… metro is so out today and it will be “out” till windows 9 or 10

  • Joe_HTH

    Microsoft screwed the pooch on that RT pricing. If they truly wanted to make a splash in the market, they should have at least included the keypad, especially since their marketing them like they go together.

    The pricing is just too much to compete with the iPad or even the Kindle Fire HD and Nexus 7. Hell, the Kindle Fire HD has better than 1080p screen resolution. Why did you have to put such a shitty resolution in this tablet Microsoft, especially at this price.

    I had hoped the Surface would make a splash in the tablet market, but Microsoft’s stupidity has effectively killed another product before launch.

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  • http://twitter.com/counterblow the person

    You have the price wrong on the Iconia, but I will vote for it knowing what the real base price is. It may be skewing your poll results though. A base Iconia is $499.

  • http://www.mainstreetchatham.com/ JimmyFal

    When….. Surface starts selling in fantastic #’s MS will have the ability to drop the price, or they will not have the incentive to if it sells well. Not sure which is better. I am sick and tired of battery life claims that are no where even close to reality. My battery life test is simple, how long will it go with a video set to repeat at full screen and a screen brightness set to one notch above dim. If it hits 8 hours I will be totally satisfied. My guess is that it will be 4. Hope I’m wrong, but I’ll know soon enough when it’s in my lap.

  • Avatar Roku

    I know I’m going to get thumbed down for this, but I don’t care…

    Anyone who would buy a Surface RT at this price over an Acer W510 is an abject moron or an extreme fanboy. At the same exact price of $500, the Acer W510 is superior to the Surface in some extremely significant ways (Operating System, Size, Battery life, Connectivity options). And the optional covers are almost the same price as the Acer keyboard dock but with an inferior keyboard, no extra battery, and no USB ports like the W510 dock.

    The only people who think the Surface and touch cover prices makes sense are people who have done no research or who just want the device because it’s made by Microsoft.

    • Wheez

      I’d like to think that I’m not a moron, but I do have to say the design of Surface made me a fanboy of it, but only cos I found it so brilliant for myself.

      I did consider that I might have to get W510 if Finland wont sell Surface or it will be too expensive, but that would’ve been settling for something I didn’t really want.

      I’m not saying that the prices (I think the device price is OK, but the keyboard price is a bit loltastic) make sense, but the W510 isnt really a viable option for me. The Surface hits the exact point that got me interested in a tablet device in the first place. W510 didn’t do that, it doesnt fulfil the exact needs/wants I have regarding the device. I’m not gonna go into full details about them, but in short the Surface RT is still more value TO ME than the W510, if for no other reason, but the premium design and materials. W510 is somewhat attractive option, but the fact it’s Acer already kills have of the buzz regarding it :D

      If you do not see the differences and strenghts and weaknesses of both the Surface’s and W510′s keyboard designs, then I just can’t argue with you, but to me they are two devices that are not similar enough to go as a 1:1 comparison for me.

    • steveo99

      If you don’t already have a laptop then the Acer may be a good choice. However, my laptop is still my main work pc and the Surface RT would be great for consumption and light office work.

    • alukard

      Start a comment like that to a bunch of strangers in real life then a Down vote would be the least of your worries. You could have made a compelling argument without first insulting people that have made a legitimate decision in their view regardless of how much you disagree.
      I’m not even on topic, your tone is totally wrong in any discussion and just lowers you to trollish teritory.

      • Bugbog

        I agree.

      • Bugbog

        I agree.

    • kalval

      You forgot the stellar build quality acer is so renouned for. Hang on…

    • NGM123

      I just purchased another laptop for $498 with 500GB hard drive, DVD drive, 3 USB ports, HDMI, and a real keyboard.
      The slight benefit of weight and portability are far out weighed by a quality genuine x86 laptop for less money.
      To me, RT Surface at this price point makes ZERO sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1009460784 John Ireland

    Honestly I am getting an RT tablet because I do not need a laptop replacement (I have a touchscreen laptop already that will upgrade quite nicely). I need a light tablet that runs Office and has the Metro interface that I love. The Surface RT fits the bill and has a much better design and build quality than Acer has ever come up with. The only thing I wish the Surface RT had was an active digitizer, but that isn’t enough to drive me to Samsung’s S-pen because while it would be nice I don’t use it enough to justify the underpowered Atom or battery suck of an i5. I think a lot of people are going to go for Atom powered tablets because of “compatibility” and find that they are not using the desktop that much after a month or two and would have been better served by an RT device.

    • willdoors

      ok , get that piece of RT junk then ;) …… RT is an useless ipad but without the apps, period!

  • http://twitter.com/sweeneytylor Tylor Sweeney

    I didn’t answer the poll simply because, in my opinion, it is too early to tell which of these products will end up being better for me. While I personally, at the moment, believe that the Clover Trail tablets (like the ATIV Smart PC or the Iconia W510) are more likely to be my device of choice, I only feel this way because there are still large holes in the app selection for Windows RT devices, and I really want Chrome on my tablet.

    However, if the app selection over the next couple of months improves, I could sacrifice using Chrome on a tablet (I’ve already made the same sacrifice on my iPhone and on family iPad’s) in order to get a device that is portable, light, has long battery life and is competitively priced, like the Surface RT.

  • Sausage Wallet

    I like the physical dock of the acer. But the build quality would be my concern. I am definitely getting a surface pro or a comparable OEM competitor sometime next year.

    • Bugbog

      Having purchased the Acer W500 based on price, I won’t be going for another Acer anytime soon, regardless of pricing.

      • marcos

        Um, I’m using and have been using a W500 for six months and have had 0 problems with it. I have a Windows 8 preview loaded, I have it plugged into a big monitor using the full HDMI port (which doesn’t come standard on 499 Surface) so it’s both my tablet and desktop device. Also the reviews of it on Amazon are quite good.

        • Bugbog

          I’ve had it for over a year. With Windows 8 it is good, just not good enough. As I stated, with other alternatives available I won’t be selecting Acer again anytime soon!

          The tablet initially had the ‘cursor jump’ issue, is somewhat heavy, the fan operates continuously when running videos, or any other intensive application, and it has no integrated stand (unless you buy the optional keyboard). Replacing it with the W510 (another x86 tab) just doesn’t seem all that appealing to me!

    • Bugbog

      Having purchased the Acer W500 based on price, I won’t be going for another Acer anytime soon, regardless of pricing.

  • Peter Schott

    It’s hard for me to justify a Surface running RT if I can get full Win8 on another device, especially with similar specs. Also looking at Lenovo and ASUS tablets for this. I’d consider holding out for the Surface Pro, but that’s in January so I guess I have time.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Njoi-Fontes/590077451 Njoi Fontes

      Its not so hard to justify when you consider that Acer is not exacly known fir its quality and that surface will probably be the highest quality tablet on the market. Also don’t forget that most people only use office on a pc so the full blown experience won’t make any difference for them.

    • Bugbog

      Unless you’ve had (or want) a laptop, I’ve found, on using the Acer W500, that I hardly use the desktop for anything other than file management, some IE10 usage, and minor settings adjustment (setting the desktop pictures!).

      So I can definitely do without the “Full” Windows.

      • Peter Schott

        Concern there is really lack of apps. I’m running Win8 Enterprise on my work laptop and keep checking the Store. I just don’t see a whole lot of apps in there yet that would match things that I do regularly. Sure, it would work well for reading files, playing media, and some very basic games. However if I want to play any games that would otherwise work well or use some basic photo apps or blogging apps that I use regularly now, I’m forced to wait for an equivalent app to show up in the Store.

        I’m torn at this point and can see the potential for the apps on the Surface, I just don’t think they’re there right now even with the pretty decent number of apps MS has in the Store. I’m also a bit concerned about the version of Office. From my understanding, it was an “Office RT” type version – good for RT, but not full Office.

        I can definitely wait for the “Pro” version and am trying to figure out what else will be available at launch for a similar price point. The ASUS and Lenovo offerings are somewhat tempting, though a higher price point. The Acer looks interesting just because it’s the same price point w/ Pro and thus the ability to run native x86 apps that can work until a better tablet-style app comes along.

        I will admit that I am very tempted to pre-order this plus the keyboard cover even knowing it won’t give me everything I’d like to have….

        • Bugbog

          No problems, if that’s what you want. I just know, based on prior usage, that the RT will be good enough for me.

          Also, I’m veritably certain that there will be a Whole slew of new apps in the market on release day.

          • Peter Schott

            I can hope for that – just observing that they aren’t there right now. There are a lot of those sorts of apps you get when people are more playing around than getting good apps. There are some good ones as well, just not as many as I’d hope to see 10 days from launch. Maybe MS is just holding them back until the 26th, but that seems kind of foolish to me.

          • Bugbog

            Why is that? I find it a somewhat surprising statement for you to make (which others have also stated), as, if they weren’t having a keynote that would be fine. But as it hasn’t officially launched yet, it can’t really be deemed a foolish move now, can it. IF the tablets, hybrids and laptops, that we know are available, aren’t being sold yet, why is it silly to not have available all the high-end quality apps either?

            What do you think they will be announcing at the keynote ceremony otherwise?

          • willdoors

            you all will be beta testers….. till windows 9 or 10

          • Bugbog

            Funny. Maybe you can write us all a feature rich, stable, highly interactive, perfect O.S.?!

    • Bugbog

      Unless you’ve had (or want) a laptop, I’ve found, on using the Acer W500, that I hardly use the desktop for anything other than file management, some IE10 usage, and minor settings adjustment (setting the desktop pictures!).

      So I can definitely do without the “Full” Windows.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rikkirik-Contrera/100003341041631 Rikkirik Contrera

    First of all Microsoft has nothing to worry about. The reasons:
    1) Pricing won’t be a problem, with all those W8 partners competing against each other and against Microsoft, prices will go down real quick. W8 tabelts will soon best the Ipad prices and Android tablets. In mature markets like China and the US competition will be fierce, driving prices down real quick.
    2) Secondly we forget the new formats, namely the hybrid PC-tablets. Most people will opt to buy a hybrid PC-tablet, having a PC and tablet in one, which makes the price factor real favorable for Microsoft and their W8 devices. I myself will opt for this option.
    3) In a recent study 50% of US IT managers are going to standardize on W8 phone and tablets. 75% of these respondents worked for companies with more than 500 employees. Businessess and enterprises are going to be the drivers of W8 sales, because of the quality, the security, the integration across devices, platforms and businessapplications and the reliability of Windows. Something which Apple and Google cannot match.
    W8, wether it be the Pro version or not, will sell, read my lips.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rtonheim Runar Tonheim

    Does Surface have GPS? and 3G or 4G LTE?

    • willdoors

      no, MS saw the numbers of ‘how many people bought tablets with 3g 4g’, and numbers were 1 out of 3, so they decided not have that option

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sergey-Durnov/100000964100298 Sergey Durnov

    Sure Surface RT. Atom isn’t good for anything other than home/light office usage, so does Tegra, no need to pay with battery life for x86. Surface is prettier, battery life longer, it’s safer. The only issue here – mobile broadband. If there will be external adapters, then I’m fine. If not – I’m not sure I’m going to buy Surface. Maybe another RT tablet with 3G.

  • Bugbog

    I think the point that a lot of people seem to be missing, is that Microsoft is trying to impart an equitable relationship between the New Windows 8, Quality and Pricing.

    It doesn’t need to be cheap! It is Worth what they price it at, and what you pay for it!

    Much as they wish to jump into the Tablet/Mobility device market, they won’t make the same mistake as the earlier Windows OEM’s; Low-balling/sand-bagging themselves with a Mediocrity/Cheapness perception.

    The New Windows 8 + Surface is worth the equitable price you pay for it!

    Get with the Program!

  • Bugbog

    I think the point that a lot of people seem to be missing, is that Microsoft is trying to impart an equitable relationship between the New Windows 8, Quality and Pricing.

    It doesn’t need to be cheap! It is Worth what they price it at, and what you pay for it!

    Much as they wish to jump into the Tablet/Mobility device market, they won’t make the same mistake as the earlier Windows OEM’s; Low-balling/sand-bagging themselves with a Mediocrity/Cheapness perception.

    The New Windows 8 + Surface is worth the equitable price you pay for it!

    Get with the Program!

  • Bugbog

    I think the point that a lot of people seem to be missing, is that Microsoft is trying to impart an equitable relationship between the New Windows 8, Quality and Pricing.

    It doesn’t need to be cheap! It is Worth what they price it at, and what you pay for it!

    Much as they wish to jump into the Tablet/Mobility device market, they won’t make the same mistake as the earlier Windows OEM’s; Low-balling/sand-bagging themselves with a Mediocrity/Cheapness perception.

    The New Windows 8 + Surface is worth the equitable price you pay for it!

    Get with the Program!